Participants: me, Lion Kimbro, Kartik Agaram.
Notes
		TechMeet, Lion's Internet Office,
  2022-07-21 11:55pm, Seattle time
  2022-07-22 6:55am, UTC
  2022-07-22 11:55pm, Yekaterinburg, Russia
	
lines.love
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			trying to mimic a notebook like paper and pencil 
Ivan Sutherland, SketchPad
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			Lines 
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			Pensieve 
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			Linking without Names; Anonymous (not titled, not named) Identifiers 
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			an Editor that folds information behind the words 
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			APL & BQN -- https://mlochbaum.github.io/BQN/index.html 
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			Lion's Project: D&D, Communities, DM dynamics 
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			Conversational Spaces in real life and Internet 
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			Conversational Tags that anyone can attach or detach to utterances, and that infect replies to ripple through a conversation 
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			Preserving Valuable things from conversational spaces w/ ForgiveAndForgetInSoftware 
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			Text vs. Speech 
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			"Orality" -- such as "The Hacker's Dictionary" (programming = an oral culture) - 
					It's not about spoken vs. written 
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					It's more about: History is constantly lost, unless you make an effort 
 
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					Plato's argument against writing (https://fs.blog/an-old-argument-against-writing): when you write something down, you have only the illusion of understanding it 
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					just the act of writing something down does something to you 
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					Feynman and others: if you aren't interacting w/ something written down, you aren't thinking 
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					we read too much ((cell phones)) https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/reading-ourselves-to-death 
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					"writing for dead people" - 
							is anybody going to read this? 
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							the universe has a way of hitting you down; ephemerality; crumbling sands 
 
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					Troika! -- https://www.troikarpg.com/ 
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					Borges -- "Every moment is immortal, but there are so many of them, you get lost" 
 
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			"Is it worth believing in?" or "Do I like it?" 
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			"Why is this God so cruel?" "You have to submit, and then it makes sense to you." 
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			"We shouldn't believe things just because they are true; We should believe them because they are worth believing." 
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			platforms/anti-platform -- over-generalizing from special cases 
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			multi-component systems 
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			Metronomicon -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAwSoT81qd8 
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			"Write down what you think, and let it grow." "If it's written, it happened." 
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			Desktop GUI by Web; Creating a Multi-user system this way 
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			math notation project: https://us.metamath.org 
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			math proof project: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizar_system 
Why we write
http://akkartik.name/post/wangs-carpets -- how minds can be both materialistic and souls can yet exist
Hogfather, from Terry Pratchet's discworld, on the relationship between ideals/dreams and matter:
		anti-communication - Herbert Brun
SmolNet - Fediverse - "Commercial Web" - IndieWeb - (anti-complexity movements)
	
Fediverse -- network of social networks
Mastodon:
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			Lion's to come 
What Kartik thinks of when he thinks of every moment being immortal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b005iHf8Z3g